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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:33:18

From: Robert Stevens

Subject: High Court of Australia on causation and policy issues

 

I do admire Justice Kirby, but not really for his abilities as a torts lawyer.

Oh for the days in the nineteenth century when judgments were a few pages long, didn't involve cutting and pasting chunks of skeleton arguments, avoided lengthy quotation (usually from the judge himself), had no need for breadth of reading being defensively shown off and when personal animosity was kept discreetly out of view.

TCF v Tambree was a dull little case, which did not require the ridiculous showboating the HC of A went in for.

 

RS

Jason Neyers writes:

Dear Colleagues:

It is amazing how different people can have such different perceptions of things. I would have thought that over the last ten years, the High Court has been the strongest appellate court in the Commonwealth on matters of private law (with the HL a distant second). I would rather have people write their own judgments when they disagree on matters of fundamental importance (like the role of policy in the law) than to sign on to some hodge-podge unanimous judgment. Although I agree with Robert that I wish that the HC judges who had very similar things to say (usually everyone except Kirby) would find a way to say them together more often.

Robert, I am also a bit surprised that you seem to like Kirby since I would have rated him the weakest member of the HC in regard to elucidating matters of private law in an intelligible and principled manner, concerns that you outline in almost all your contributions to the ODG. His judgments read like SCC judgments in that they say that everything is policy and yet they never take the policies fully seriously (i.e. apply them to their natural conclusions). Thus, I would be interested to know why you hold him in such high regard. Personally, I have always found the judgments of McHugh, Kirby and Glesson to be of a much higher quality in regard to the principled and intelligible application of the private law than those of Kirby.

What I found interesting about Neil's e-mail is that it seems there is still a lot of debate in Australia over causation whereas in Canada I would have thought that most would have agreed that there are questions of factual causation which are followed by questions of scope of liability (remoteness, legal cause) and that the two questions are largely separate.

 

 


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