From: Gerard Sadlier <gerard.sadlier@gmail.com>
To: Mindy Chen-Wishart <mindy.chen-wishart@law.ox.ac.uk>
CC: Andrew Robertson <a.robertson@unimelb.edu.au>
ODG <obligations@uwo.ca>
Date: 06/12/2013 10:35:05 UTC
Subject: Re: Can a Discretionary Benefit Constitute Consideration?

Dear Andrew and Mindy

Thank you very much for both your responses, which are very helpful
and in particular for the cases you mention!

Kind regards

Ger

On 12/6/13, Mindy Chen-Wishart <mindy.chen-wishart@law.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> And then there is Luxor (Eastborne) Ltd v Cooper (1941) which seems right up
> your street. The House of Lords denied a real estate agent’s claim for a
> £10,000 commission payable on completion of a sale when the agent found
> buyers but the owners refused to complete. The commission was the equivalent
> of a Lord Chancellor’s annual payment for work done within eight or nine
> days, and the court held that the common understanding was that estate
> agents take ‘the risk in the hope of a substantial remuneration for
> comparatively small exertion’ (at 126).
>
> So the court can 'construe' the nature of the agreement entered by the
> parties and find the 'discretionary' element you mention even if it were not
> express.
>
> If it was express "I will do X unless I change my mind", (or 'if I feel like
> it'), then it seems more questionable whether there is anything more than
> illusory consideration. There would also be a question of the parties'
> intention to create legal relations. what would be the remedy for such a
> contract? could it even be breached?
>
> But then, the question of discretionary promise may arise with respect to
> complete exclusions of liability, or very wide / complete power to
> cancel/terminate the contract.
>
> best,
> Mindy
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2013, at 02:03, Andrew Robertson
> <a.robertson@unimelb.edu.au<mailto:a.robertson@unimelb.edu.au>>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Ger,
>
> Whether the arrangement you describe can constitute a binding contract
> depends on whether A remains free to withdraw even after B has performed
> the specified steps. If B is free to take the specified steps or not as he
> or she chooses then the arrangement is clearly not a bilateral contract,
> but could constitute a unilateral contract if A becomes bound to confer
> the benefit if B takes the specified steps. If A remains free to withdraw
> from the arrangement and refuse the benefit even after B has performed
> then A¹s promise is clearly illusory and the arrangement is not binding on
> either party.
>
> Views differ on the question whether an offeror under a unilateral
> contract can withdraw after the offeree has embarked on performance: see
> Daulia Ltd v Four Millbank Nominees Ltd [1978] Ch 232 and the decision of
> the Full Court of the Federal Court of Australia in Mobil Oil Australia
> Ltd v Wellcome International Pty Ltd (1998) 81 FCR 475.
>
>
> With best wishes,
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On 6/12/2013 9:39 am, "Gerard Sadlier"
> <gerard.sadlier@gmail.com<mailto:gerard.sadlier@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> ear all,
>
> I am looking for cases on the question whether there can be
> consideration in an arrangement where 1 party "A" agrees to confer a
> benefit on the other party "B" in say 3 months, if B takes certain
> steps but both A and B retain the right to terminate the arrangement
> at any time before conferral, for any reason whatever.
>
> Can such an arrangement constitute a binding contract before the steps
> are taken and the benefit conferred?
>
> In practical terms, the benefit is that neither party thinks that the
> other will resile, though both accepts that they are free to do so.
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Ger
>
>
>
>
>