From:                                                       Lionel Smith <lionel.smith@law.ox.ac.uk>

Sent:                                                         Thursday 17 July 2025 21:12

To:                                                            obligations

Subject:                                                   Debt and debt

 

There is a difference between replacing debt as a form of action and replacing it as a concept. This is why Sir John Baker notes that it is quite mysterious what Parliament meant by enacting, in 1977, that “detinue is abolished”. The form of action was abolished long before. The fact of detaining something that belongs to another, that gives rise to a justiciable grievance, was obviously not intended to abolished. The only effect to be given to the enactment is apparently terminological. 

 

Slade’s Case did not abolish the concept of debt but made the form of action redundant; but not instantly and in all cases, because law reform by legal fiction is always messy. Slade’s Case may have held that “every debt imports a [fictional] promise to pay” the debt in an attempt to improve justice, allowing plaintiffs to sue in trespass with a jury for breach of the fictional promise to pay, but what if the debtor was dead? Did the debt import a promise to pay on the part of his executors? Yes, eventually, but not right away. 

 

The Field Code was D.D. Field’s greatest success in codification, much more successful than his Civil Code. It was enacted in dozens of states (in a Union with fewer than today) and influenced Canada also with the result that many of these jurisdictions had the Judicature reforms before the mother country. See Funk and Girard in Equity and Law: Fusion and Fission (2021). 

 

L. 

 



On Jul 17, 2025, at 18:47, Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk> wrote:



Debt was not wholly replaced in the aftermath of Slade’s Case in 1602 – for reasons which are not entirely clear to me there were still actions in debt being brought in the 1820s (much to the annoyance of the courts who were forced to administer wager of law), which I suppose meant it survived long enough in practice in England to see the abolition of wager of law in 1833 and therefore come back to life.

 

America was born too early for that, but too late to not have its substantive law distorted by civil procedure as a result of Slade’s Case.

 

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From: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2025 6:29:02 PM
To: Mark Gergen <mgergen@berkeley.edu>; Liau,TH <t.h.liau@lse.ac.uk>; Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>
Cc: obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: Contributory Fault in Contract Law at the SCC

 

It is also there in the Restatement Second s. 345 (a)

 

https://opencasebook.org/casebooks/11568-contracts/resources/6.1.1.2-r2k-345/

 

But I don’t think it could be said that the Restatement’s text makes the distinction clear.

 

For myself, I don’t believe that a US court would allow in, or embark upon, a counterfactual enquiry if a sum of money is owed, as it would and should if the claim were one for damages for loss.

 

“I no longer have to pay you because if I had not breached my contractual obligation to pay you last week, you would have lost the money gambling as you did with all the rest of your wealth.”

 

The reason, I suspect, the action for the price in sales law gets less academic airtime than the quantification of damages, is that there isn’t very much to say. If the payment is due, you can claim it.

 

Maybe, less charitably, US lawyers are, without knowing it, more enthral to the old forms of action? I’m no historian, but “debt” as a form of action was replaced by indebitatus assumpsit, which involved pleading a fictional promise to pay the debt, which was then breached. In England, this mumbo jumbo disappeared with the Judicature Acts. The Field Code was 1848, but that was just New York.

 

 

From: Mark Gergen <mgergen@berkeley.edu>
Sent: 17 July 2025 18:00
To: Liau,TH <t.h.liau@lse.ac.uk>; Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>; Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>
Cc: obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: Contributory Fault in Contract Law at the SCC

 

My impression is that the practice of debt collection in the US is similar to that in the rest of the common law world though debtors have less legal protection than they do elsewhere.  My interest in the disappearance of the action of debt (or for a sum certain) grew out of conversations long ago with Stephen Smith (blessed be his memory). As a practical matter the disappearance of the action in the US had no impact because almost invariably a debtor in default has no contract law defenses. Almost invariably, the creditor will get a judgment on the pleadings.  The one significant substantive area of difference involves claims where the claimant has not yet performed their part of the bargain when the defendant repudiates. In the U.S. a creditor who proceeds to perform and sues to collect the price can be met with a defense of failure to mitigate.  But even here the practical difference is narrow because typically a creditor who proceeds to perform after repudiation has a good reason do so, and so they will overcome the mitigation defense and recover the price. And creditors who anticipate this issue and don’t want to have to deal with a mitigation defense can use a liquidated damage clause. But the disappearance of the action has had a baleful effect on legal theory and how contract law and remedies are taught in the U.S.

 

As for the issue of contributory fault in contract law, I am surprised to hear Canadian courts may be moving in this direction. As Smith argues cogently in his book on remedies (and Fuller argued much earlier but less cogently), when a contract action is for consequential damages contract law already has tools to fairly apportion the loss resulting from the breach between the claimant and the defendant, including a rule that casts all losses that cannot be proven with a reasonable degree of certainty on the claimant as well as the requirements of foreseeability and mitigation.   

 

On Jul 17, 2025, at 9:35AM, Tim Liau <T.H.Liau@lse.ac.uk> wrote:

 

Similarly proof of debt in corporate insolvency, though subject to stay/moratorium, would be really different than an action for damages.

Surely the relevant statutes (Ch 11 etc?) would make the distinction…

T

 

From: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: 17 July 2025 17:23
To: Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>; obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: Contributory Fault in Contract Law at the SCC

 

I don't understand how receivables financing could work in a world where the only action available is damages, requiring a full trial to determine quantum.

 

Do US practitioners (not academics) really not think in terms of an action for the price if a seller isn't paid? What is the action if I borrow money and don't pay it back? Just damages?!?

 


From: Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2025 3:55:53 PM
To: obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: ODG: Contributory Fault in Contract Law at the SCC

 

Dear Colleagues:

 

I just saw that the SCC has given leave in Arcamm Electrical Services Ltd. v. Avison Young Real Estate Management Services LP, 2024 ONCA 925 (41673) (https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onca/doc/2024/2024onca925/2024onca925.html?resultId=c952bd55b59b422f9511629b4d3cbdf1&searchId=2025-02-14T15:35:58:945/58a67fd92fcd4a88be658926cab6eeba)  to address the issue of whether damages in breach of contract actions can be apportioned based on a defence of contributory fault in general and more specifically in the context of a summary judgment motion.  Hold on to your hat!

 

Here are the facts as prepared by the court:

 

4342 Queen St. Niagara Holdings Inc. owns commercial property and Avison Young Real Estate Management Services LP is its property manager. Following a power outage at the property, Arcamm Electrical Services Ltd. provided emergency services to temporarily restore power and then further services to permanently restore power. 4342 Queen St. Niagara Holdings Inc. paid Arcamm Electrical Services Ltd.’s invoices for the emergency services but refused to pay any further invoices. Arcamm Electrical Services Ltd. commenced a claim for breach of contract. 4342 Queen St. Niagara Holdings Inc. claimed contributory fault and sought an apportionment of damages. Arcamm Electrical Services Ltd. was awarded summary judgment without any apportionment. The Court of Appeal allowed an appeal and set aside the summary judgment in part. It held the claim against Queen St. Niagara Holdings Inc. should proceed to trial and Arcamm Electrical Services Ltd. can seek apportionment based on the alleged contributory fault.

 

Here is what the ONCA said on this issue:

 

… I understand this submission to rest on the assumption that contributory fault cannot be raised as a defence to a claim in contract.

 

[41]      I reject this submission and the assumption which underlies it. There has been a long-standing debate about whether the courts can apportion damages in a breach of contract case based on a consideration of the “contributory negligence” of the parties. While recognizing that the Negligence Act, R. S.O. 1990, c. N.1 does not apply to actions in contract, a number of first instance decisions in Ontario, beginning with Tompkins Hardware Ltd. v. North Western Flying Services Ltd. (1982), 1982 CanLII 3160 (ON SC), 139 D.L.R. (3d) 329, 22 C.C.L.T. 1 (Ont. H.C.J.), have applied the principle that damages in contract can be apportioned based on the degree of fault of the plaintiff and defendant. See, for example, Ribic v. Weinstein (1982), 1982 CanLII 3170 (ON SC), 140 D.L.R. (3d) 258 (Ont. H.C.), aff’d (1984), 1984 CanLII 1869 (ON CA), 47 O.R. (2d) 126 (C.A.); Treaty Group Inc. v. Drake International Inc. (2005), 2005 CanLII 45406 (ON SC), 36 C.C.L.T. (3d) 265, 15 B.L.R. (4th) 83 (Ont. S.C.), aff’d on other grounds, 2007 ONCA 450[2]K-Line Maintenance & Construction Ltd. v. Scepter Corp., 2009 CarswellOnt 7398, 91 C.L.R. (3d) 73 (Ont. S.C.), at para. 161; Atos v. Sapient2016 ONSC 6852, at para. 389; and Parkhill Excavating Limited v. Robert E. Young Construction Limited2017 ONSC 6903, at para. 212. Appellate courts elsewhere in Canada have similarly held that damages in contract cases can be apportioned based on fault. See, for example, Coopers & Lybrand v. H.E. Kane Agencies Ltd. (1985), 1985 CanLII 125 (NB CA), 62 N.B.R. (2d) 1, (N.B. C.A.), at pp. 707-708; and Doiron v. Caisse populaire d'Inkerman Ltée (1985), 1985 CanLII 95 (NB CA), 17 D.L.R. (4th) 660, 61 N.B.R. (2d) 123 (N.B. C.A.), at p. 273.

 

[42]      In Tompkins, Saunders J. gave compelling reasons for holding that the courts should allow for the apportionment of contract damages. He said that negligence on the part of a plaintiff should have the same effect in reducing damages regardless of whether the claim is brought in tort or contract. In his view, the principle in tort cases that where a person is part author of their own injury, the person cannot call upon the other party to compensate them in full, applies equally in contract cases: at para. 34.

 

[43]      In Treaty Group, Ducharme J. thoroughly canvassed the caselaw and academic writing on the subject and applied the reasoning in Tompkins. At para. 70 of Treaty Group, Ducharme J. concluded that not only could he apportion damages in a contract action to recognize conduct on the part of the plaintiff that had increased their damages but, in appropriate cases, apportionment was “required by fairness, equity and justice”. I agree.

 

[44]      Finally, I note that in Cosyns v. Smith (1983), 1983 CanLII 1750 (ON CA), 146 D.L.R. (3d) 622, 25 C.C.L.T. 54 (Ont. C.A.) Lacourciere J.A., writing for this court, considered the contributory fault defence, describing it as “analogous to contributory negligence” but where the Court holds the basis of recovery against the defendants to be contract, not tort: at para. 1. He reviewed the reasoning of Saunders J. in Tompkins, but concluded that it was not necessary to pronounce on the “attractive conclusion” that Saunders J. had reached because the plaintiff’s conduct did not amount to contributory negligence.

 

[45]      I agree with the Ontario first instance courts that damages in contract cases can be apportioned based on fault. Accordingly, in my view, Queen was entitled to defend the Arcamm Action on the basis of contributory fault, and to seek to have the contractual damages Arcamm claimed reduced to recognize Arcamm’s alleged conduct in increasing those damages.

 

 

Sincerely, 

 

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Jason Neyers
Professor of Law
Faculty of Law
Western University
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