From:                                                       Enrichment - Restitution & Unjust Enrichment Legal Issues <ENRICHMENT@LISTS.MCGILL.CA> on behalf of Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@LAW.OX.AC.UK>

Sent:                                                         Monday 23 October 2023 12:01

To:                                                            ENRICHMENT@LISTS.MCGILL.CA

Subject:                                                   Re: [RDG] Attorney General of Trinidad and Tobago v Trinsalvage Enterprises Ltd.

 

As most laypeople pick up what legal English they have from US legal dramas on TV and film, the only people who use “claimant” and not “plaintiff” are lawyers familiar with the Woolf reforms. Thereby, somewhat ironically, creating a dissonance between legal usage and that of ordinary people. (And between the past and the present; and between this common law system and of others).

 

“The claimant claims” is also just uglier than “the plaintiff claims”.

 

However, looking at Lionel’s list, I think I’d probably just ditch “chose in action.”

 

See pp 5-7

 

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4416200

 

 

From: Enrichment - Restitution & Unjust Enrichment Legal Issues <ENRICHMENT@LISTS.MCGILL.CA> On Behalf Of Lionel Smith
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 10:53 AM
To: ENRICHMENT@LISTS.MCGILL.CA
Subject: Re: [RDG] Attorney General of Trinidad and Tobago v Trinsalvage Enterprises Ltd.

 

Steven said: “(Speaking for myself, claimant is a superior term to plaintiff, for the same reasons that we now use English rather than Law French.)”

 

But many English words (arguably all of them) come from other languages .. and if the oldest example of “plaintiff” being used in English in the OED is 1325, the oldest “claimant” is only 1747.

 

Moreover if we want to get rid of Law French words and expressions, we will need to get rid of defendant, tort, fee simple, laches, lien, bailiff, attorney, chose in action, chattel, escrow, estoppel, mortgage, jury, cy-près, etc.

Lionel

 

 

 

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