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Duncan Sheehan
Date:
Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:58:44
Re:
Kleinwort Benson

 

Dear All,

Firstly many thanks to Eoin for reminding me about res judicata; it's not something I think about a great deal. As for whether established restitutionary defences will be enough after Kleinwort Benson I don't know either, but I suspect that they will be.

There is something that Steve Hedley said, that initially I had to agree with, but I'm not so sure now. He gave two examples in which he said that it would be absurd to give restitution even though the mistake in that case was in fact a cause of the payment. I confess I'm not entirely clear on whether I can draw down saved read mail while composing another so you'll have to forgive me for not repeating them. However, my point is this. If the mistake is a necessary condition of the payment, in the sense of being a sine qua non and possibly even a sufficient reason in that the payment would be made even if the mistake were the only reason for it, why not?

Where do you draw the line? Cases in Australia, Commercial Bank of Australia v Younis, and England, Gibbon v Mitchell, say, have used the test that the mistake needs to be fundamental. This is also the test used in contract see Associated Japanese Bank v Credit du Nord. Even if we ignore Peter Birks' favourite assertion that willpower has no voltage, it seems a bit vague. I've heard it explained in terms of being material and essential to the heart of the transaction. It's not very helpful is it? And in any case should we not be more wary of allowing mistakes to avoid transactions in contract where ex hypothesi there is a bargain than in restitution? If Steve has a measurable bright line he'd like to explain to me I'd be grateful. If he has none then the law is becoming in essence very discretionary and up to what the judge happens to think on a particular day, so long as he uses the right words and we might as well throw away Goff and Jones and all the rest.

 

Duncan


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