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would be obliged if I could get some of the member's thoughts on the questions
below. The first two questions relates to the recent case of Lloyds
Bank v. Independent Insurance Co Ltd and the third relates to "variation"
claims in building contracts.
1. As the members are no doubt well aware, the Independent Insurance
Co Ltd case, reaffirmed the "payment made for good consideration" defence
enunciated by Goff J (as he then was in WJ Simms). My question is this,
if the bank loses due the payment made for good consideration defence
does it automatically mean that the bank can invoke the B Liggett subrogation
defence and debit the sum from the client (assuming that the bank is still
solvent and the bank does not mind losing the client's business). If so,
does it mean the wisest way to prosecute such an action is to bring the
client in as second Defendant in any event, and ask for the appropriate
costs order. Either way, the bank's position as to costs can be protected
by a Sanderson/Bullock Order (or whatever they are called nowadays in
the post Woolf days).
2. Is the B Liggett defence only confined to banking or can it extend
elsewhere? Professor Ellinger and Ms. Lomnicka (Modern Banking Law 2nd
Edition on page 376 ) have said that the B Liggett defence "can be more
readily explained as an independent doctrine that precludes the customer
from reaping the benefit of the payment involved whilst demanding a reversal
of the debit entry made by the bank". It seems to me that they are referring
to an autonomous unjust enrichment situation. If this is so, then why
should the same be only confined in a banking situation and not used elsewhere
or for that matter be confined to being a defence. In other words, can
it be used to be the basis of a cause of action i.e. a declaration for
a right of subrogation where one has discharged the debt of another subject
to the officiousness rule of course?
(3) My third question relates to building construction. As the members
are no doubt well aware, contractors are very fond of claiming for "variations".
To put it simply, the contractors argue that certain works are outside
the scope of the contract and therefore the contract has been "varied".
Usually, the whole litigation turns on whether the work is outside the
scope or not.
However, I have often wondered what is the basis of the claim. If the
contract envisages a rate in which the variation is to be paid, I have
no problems analysing it as purely a contractual claim. However, where
the contract is silent on variations what exactly is the nature of the
claim? The first possibility is of course contract. However, the problem
with the contract analysis is finding the traditional elements of contract.
Very often there are fierce letters shooting to and fro the parties stating
"it is part of the contract - you have to do it" and "it is not part of
the contract - if I do it I will charge you". In circumstances like these,
I find it very hard to justify the same as a contract. Is it restitutionary
in nature? What is the unjust factor? Duress? It has been suggested to
me that it is a failure of consideration. Finally, most importantly does
it matter to a litigant whether it is analysed as contract or restitution
- is there any advantage to argue that it is one and not the other?
I look forward to the members' response.
Thank you
Tang Hang Wu <== Previous message Back to index Next message ==> |
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