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'All the world
agrees that...' was a common starting point for axiomatic reasoning in Mishnah
and Talmud. This might seem to be illiberal and coercive as the point of
departure is dictated. But a twist must be added. The addition appears from
the following midrash:
"A young scholar suspected his masters' axioms (..all the world agrees...)
and went forth to collect contradictory opinions. He asked from the butcher
and the baker in the marketplace, and then presented these opposing views
to his masters. They replied impatiently: 'They are not the world. WE
are the world'."
Coke's artificial reasoners...
Joshua Getzler Peter Birks wrote:
I did not think obviousness was a non-serious issue,
though it has indeed been trivialized in order to be dismissed. My point
was not that SH was as bad as the Nazis but that every argument in the
form 'It is obvious that ...' is anti-rational, in that it evades the
giving of reasons and conceals errors. It is obvious that an apple which
detaches itself from a tree will fall to the ground. But if we had stopped
there we would never have found out why. I dispute the assertion that
rationality in law is different from rationality in the natural sciences
but, leaving that large question on one side, I take it that SH cannot
mean that law differs from physics in not needing to discover reasons.
In Chandler v Webster the view was taken that money
payable under a valid contract could not be recovered even if the contract
was later frustrated and the payer got nothing for his payment. In Fibrosa
a different view prevailed. The difference requires to be explained,
and it can only be explained through a discussion of the reasons why
restitution is given. What advance can we make if one protagonist says
that Chandler was obviously right and the other says that it was obviously
wrong, and both insist that obviousness is an argument behind which
it is not necessary to go? If someone were to maintain money paid under
a judgment which was valid at the time of the payment should not be
recoverable even if the judgment was later reversed, we would likewise
have to meet his argument with an analysis of the reasons why restitution
is ordered. I confess that I would hardly know what law was, or
how to mark a law examination, if 'It is obvious that ...' were thought
to be a good argument. Presumably a student's 'It is obvious ...' would
have the same validity as a judge's. Peter B H Birks, QC, DCL, FBA Home: Oak Trees, Sandy Lane, <== Previous message Back to index Next message ==> |
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